I've Been Scammed
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Inline Tile and Stone

Permits

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I'd like to be able to show a photo of the permit for my project, but Borad said we didn't need permits. Unbelievable, but true. He said "...we're not moving bearing walls and don't need permits." Actually, he did remove part of a short wall to enlarge the opening to the kitchen. When he remomved the last stud part of the ceiling caved in, spilling loose insulation on him and the electrician. So, is that a bearing wall? But, as it turns out, bearing walls aren't the only requirement for having a permit. That's proof that too many contractors do not know the state or local building codes and requirements for getting them.

Borad claims that I didn't want permits, but it doesn't matter if the property owner wants them or not. It is the responsibility of the contractor to get permits or DECLINE THE JOB! LOL... I can't imagine any contractor turning down a $77,000 (plus cost over runs) job, permits or not.

Ain't no way a small operator was passin' up what was probably the BIGGEST JOB he's had in years.

NOTE: Based on permit records and the license number, a website I checked was able to verify that Inline Tile And Stone has worked on (only) 2 projects (with permits) over the past 13 years.

Most small-time contractors do not like paperwork. Permists take time, delay the project, and delay the progress payments to the contractor. Permits also cut into the contractor's profit margin. LOL... Once that money gets into a small-time contractor's pocket "it ain't commin' out," even if it means putting his license and livelyhood on the line.

The following little tidbit of info comes from Borad himself (he posted it on Angie's List), and I have to laugh when I think about it. Borad supposedly had a conversation with Gregory Holmes of the CLSB office in San Diego, whom I refer to as "Inspector Holmes." (Holmes NEVER was a licensed contractor and doesn't have the experience of a licensed contractor, yet he is responsible for overseeing licensed contractors. Go figure...) Anyway, Borad and Inspector Holmes were (supposedly) discussing the lack of permits and Inspector Holmes (supposedly) said,"What homeowner would spend that much money ($77,000) and not want permits?"

And my response to Borad is, "What contractor would put his license and livelyhood ON THE LINE and do a job without permits?" Well, obviously Borad would, and did just that because $77,000 projects with a nearly 20% cost overrun, and a $30,000 profit IN THE POCKET, don't come along very often for a "small potatoes" operator. Besides, who bothers to check license and citation information? LOL... Angie's List has far more influence than the violations listed on the CSLB site.

Well (laughter, ha ha, hee hee), regardless of whether Inspector actually said that or not, Holmes cited Borad for not getting permits.

Epilogue on permits... We've done a lot of business with licensed contractors over the years. Our first big project was in 1998 when we had some remodeling done, which included adding a 15 X 30 foot family room, enlargening a bedroom, and adding a second full bath. The contractor, Crown Builders did get permits. Licensed, yes, but still did a shoddy job. It was no surprise that they went bankrupt before the job was finished.

In 2001 we bought a rental property. It took nearly three months to make it livable, and we did all of that work ourselves, including remodeling the kitchen. Since it involved mostly kitchen cabinets and flooring, no permits were required. Oh, by the way, we planned the kitchen with a computer aided design (CAD) system, so we knew exactly how many cabinets we needed and where they were to be located.

In 2010 that rental property became vacant and we decided to do major upgrades: new roof, central heat and air; new fireplace insert; new lights throughout; and new doors and new windows. We had no less than five (5) contractors on the job and NOT ONE of them mentioned permits. Not even the HVAC company that removed two wall furnaces and installed new gas plumbing and electrical wiring for a completely new system.

So, regarding permits, my previous statement that the CSLB does not monitor licensed contractors is very true. If a system, such as the CSLB pretends to have, is not monitored, then the system becomes out of control.